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		By: Beedie Baba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beedie Baba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the ignorant masses. Everyone  has experienced the  destruction that the VAT has and is causing. The Government is just looking to borrow it&#039;s way into oblivion. They have no intentions of every paying off that debt, just  keep exploiting their  position  and enjoying the spoils of  the being in the big office. Ask Mugabe when  does he believe  he can realistic start paying down St. Lucian debt. Your  post  border on appearing as spin, just keep talking  and telling the  people that things  are great and have always been so. The worst is over, you can come out because the economic storm is over. WHAT BS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the ignorant masses. Everyone  has experienced the  destruction that the VAT has and is causing. The Government is just looking to borrow it&#8217;s way into oblivion. They have no intentions of every paying off that debt, just  keep exploiting their  position  and enjoying the spoils of  the being in the big office. Ask Mugabe when  does he believe  he can realistic start paying down St. Lucian debt. Your  post  border on appearing as spin, just keep talking  and telling the  people that things  are great and have always been so. The worst is over, you can come out because the economic storm is over. WHAT BS.		</p>
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		By: Beedie Baba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beedie Baba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91973&quot;&gt;David Myers&lt;/a&gt;.

So what do you  want? Messy lying statistics? If  you are not arriving from ignorance, it means that you  are fully biased by the time  you enter into the debate. The VAT  was born in St. Lucia and  quite soon after that  companies  started going under,  lots of people  lost their jobs and there is now  very little  in terms of  new foreign investment. David have you ever owned or  had any experience running a business in St. Lucia? Why don&#039;t you try  creating one today, and  maybe you might be qualified to talk about solutions. You talk a lot but say absolutely nothing, you see, economics is  big con job, people become  wealthy on the  backs of the masses, you just need to sell hope to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91973">David Myers</a>.</p>
<p>So what do you  want? Messy lying statistics? If  you are not arriving from ignorance, it means that you  are fully biased by the time  you enter into the debate. The VAT  was born in St. Lucia and  quite soon after that  companies  started going under,  lots of people  lost their jobs and there is now  very little  in terms of  new foreign investment. David have you ever owned or  had any experience running a business in St. Lucia? Why don&#8217;t you try  creating one today, and  maybe you might be qualified to talk about solutions. You talk a lot but say absolutely nothing, you see, economics is  big con job, people become  wealthy on the  backs of the masses, you just need to sell hope to&#8230;		</p>
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		By: David Myers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Myers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91955&quot;&gt;Beedie Baba&lt;/a&gt;.

I prefer not to argue from ignorance hence my reliance on empirical evidence.  In no way, shape or form am I ever going to go from an abject statement of ignorance to an abject statement of certainty in one fell swoop.  That&#039;s precisely the problem the pervades in Saint Lucia.  I am not willing to submit any argument unless I&#039;ve thoroughly researched the topic.  A surgeon doesn&#039;t operate prior to finding out what ails the body.  A series of x-rays, MRIs, cat-scans and so on are performed to determine what exactly is causing the problem then it can be fixed.  Thus we need examine our communities and its inhabitants to determine what triggers crime.  We need to examine policing tactics to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91955">Beedie Baba</a>.</p>
<p>I prefer not to argue from ignorance hence my reliance on empirical evidence.  In no way, shape or form am I ever going to go from an abject statement of ignorance to an abject statement of certainty in one fell swoop.  That&#8217;s precisely the problem the pervades in Saint Lucia.  I am not willing to submit any argument unless I&#8217;ve thoroughly researched the topic.  A surgeon doesn&#8217;t operate prior to finding out what ails the body.  A series of x-rays, MRIs, cat-scans and so on are performed to determine what exactly is causing the problem then it can be fixed.  Thus we need examine our communities and its inhabitants to determine what triggers crime.  We need to examine policing tactics to&#8230;		</p>
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		By: Beedie Baba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beedie Baba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 02:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91954&quot;&gt;David Myers&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Empirical evidence&quot; is a the term used  when a sensitive subject is being exposed. David  we are talking about policing in the Americas. Canadian and American police have some  real bad Johns  who brutalize  not only  the public but  even their wives, it&#039;s a horrible job to be in. Now the VAT issue,  for goodness sake brother man you  know  like everyone on the island that the VAT&#039;s arrival was like the arrival of hell, everything in the economy and the society  went south because the  percentage  was way too high, it needed to be  around 8%. I  don&#039;t think you can be objective in this matter because  you may have your own personal interest. You really like  empirical evidence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91954">David Myers</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Empirical evidence&#8221; is a the term used  when a sensitive subject is being exposed. David  we are talking about policing in the Americas. Canadian and American police have some  real bad Johns  who brutalize  not only  the public but  even their wives, it&#8217;s a horrible job to be in. Now the VAT issue,  for goodness sake brother man you  know  like everyone on the island that the VAT&#8217;s arrival was like the arrival of hell, everything in the economy and the society  went south because the  percentage  was way too high, it needed to be  around 8%. I  don&#8217;t think you can be objective in this matter because  you may have your own personal interest. You really like  empirical evidence.		</p>
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		By: David Myers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Myers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91951&quot;&gt;Beedie Baba&lt;/a&gt;.

I beg to differ,  Crime has been a problem for well over a decade now.  There are several reasons for crime occurring and until you can show me empirical evidence that there&#039;s a correlation between VAT and high crime I will remain skeptical of your argument.  Furthermore, police aren&#039;t like that all over the world.  Take a quick look at Nordic countries and you&#039;ll find that police rarely use force but that&#039;s tantamount to the cultures of those countries.  It&#039;s unfair generalization to make that all policing organizations don&#039;t show a penchant for human right and also it&#039;s unfounded that there are few good policemen.  Again, provide some empirical evidence  of that, until then I will...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://stluciastar.com/the-police-are-the-public-and-the-public-are-the-police/#comment-91951">Beedie Baba</a>.</p>
<p>I beg to differ,  Crime has been a problem for well over a decade now.  There are several reasons for crime occurring and until you can show me empirical evidence that there&#8217;s a correlation between VAT and high crime I will remain skeptical of your argument.  Furthermore, police aren&#8217;t like that all over the world.  Take a quick look at Nordic countries and you&#8217;ll find that police rarely use force but that&#8217;s tantamount to the cultures of those countries.  It&#8217;s unfair generalization to make that all policing organizations don&#8217;t show a penchant for human right and also it&#8217;s unfounded that there are few good policemen.  Again, provide some empirical evidence  of that, until then I will&#8230;		</p>
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		By: Beedie Baba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beedie Baba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your high crime rate is as a result of of VAT.  What I mean by this is,  the VAT  has escalated the  arrival of poverty, it is a small business killer and as a result a job destroyer, and by the way the job of being a policeman sucks because you are exposed to humanities ugly side and are brutalized by the public from how they think, talk and look at you, so it&#039;s only natural that you actually become that  way. It is  so all over the world that police are destroyed by being in that job, the society has created a real pet monster with  teeth. It takes a  very special person to be a good cop and those are far and few.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your high crime rate is as a result of of VAT.  What I mean by this is,  the VAT  has escalated the  arrival of poverty, it is a small business killer and as a result a job destroyer, and by the way the job of being a policeman sucks because you are exposed to humanities ugly side and are brutalized by the public from how they think, talk and look at you, so it&#8217;s only natural that you actually become that  way. It is  so all over the world that police are destroyed by being in that job, the society has created a real pet monster with  teeth. It takes a  very special person to be a good cop and those are far and few.		</p>
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		By: David Myers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Myers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Sarah!  Hopefully, enough people read this to get some dialogue going.  While the ultimate goal is change, the conversation needs to get started even if there are disagreements.  Apathy when it comes to this issue isn&#039;t going to help the country address the high crime rate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sarah!  Hopefully, enough people read this to get some dialogue going.  While the ultimate goal is change, the conversation needs to get started even if there are disagreements.  Apathy when it comes to this issue isn&#8217;t going to help the country address the high crime rate.		</p>
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		By: Beedie Baba		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beedie Baba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You cannot separate corruption from power, if you then  it is no longer power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot separate corruption from power, if you then  it is no longer power.		</p>
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		By: Sarah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another great piece of research!  The police officials and government officials need acknowlege the current police system is not fit for purpose and strategic changes is imperative.  Let&#039;s keep pressing with these great pieces of research, we will knock some doors eventually.  Great work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great piece of research!  The police officials and government officials need acknowlege the current police system is not fit for purpose and strategic changes is imperative.  Let&#8217;s keep pressing with these great pieces of research, we will knock some doors eventually.  Great work!		</p>
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